Michael Czysz Responds To Some FAQ’s

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On where and when MotoCzysz will race and the 990 Vs 800-

From the beginning MotoCzysz set out to build the most advanced sportbike ever built in America, one capable of bringing America back to competitive road racing and winning. 

Without question the displacement for our effort would be a 1,000cc motorcycle the model that is the recipient of each manufactures leading technology.  While pursuing this dream came a unique opportunity- prior to our first 1,000cc bike reaching production and with only a 10cc reduction in displacement it could qualify as a MotoGP bike…

More questions after the jump

…In fact our first bike- the C1 with all of its non-production innovation, by definition, meets the true intent of what a MotoGP bike was intended be.

When the rules were announced that displacement would be limited to 800cc in 07 (clearly a thoughtless and pointless change as evidence that lap times between the 990′s and 800′s are nearly identical.  In fact it would be easy to make a case that the 800′s are more dangerous than the 990′s.  Yes the 800′s have a lower top speed- where few riders crash but a higher corner speed- where most riders crash. Could it be that the manufactures with the most money benefit a competitive advantage over the others with less, each rule change?) we decided to stay dedicated to the open class displacement of 1,000cc.

We did however pick a bore X stroke formula that would be optimized for a future 800cc MotoGP design and still work for a 1,000 Superbike, we choose 82mm, the same as what Ducati picked for their new 800.  So the bottom end for a future 800 MotoGP engine is nearly set, the problem is the top end. An 800 will have to turn around 18,000+ rpm’s and that will require pneumatics, at least for the intake cam. Our best estimate is this is $500,000 an investment that cannot trickle down to a production model, in other words, no way to recoup a $500,000 R&D investment.

So MotoCzysz will stay focused on delivering a 1,000cc sportbike and use 07 to turn our prototype motorcycle into a production bike and competitive race bike. We have secured several major players required to create a true American Race Dream Team, the principal members are all on one year contracts ready for 08 if we can deliver a competitive bike. 

AMA or WSB? is very dependent on our race partners and sponsors.  And though I would like to start at home and let the bike race in front of as many American fans as possible, the recent blunders of the AMA coupled with its poor attendance and small TV audience make it difficult to get companies excited about our national series.  Most of the sponsors I have spoken to are favoring WSB along with their larger television audience and better run series.  But maybe you can have an influence on this- tell us what you think.  If we could get 10,000 new fans to come to each AMA event we could impress the sponsors and significantly increase the value of the AMA.

In response to choosing and needing to develop so many untried technologies and concepts-

Yes, we are definitely traveling down our own road, it may not be the road to success but nonetheless- it is our road.  There is an inherent sense of adventure and reward in taking the road less traveled that is very appealing to true motorcyclists. It is an insanely bumpy ride and a little dangerous but there is little traffic- in fact, at times it feels nearly deserted, nobody to ask which way to go.  I only hope that eventually the rough ride will smooth out and deliver us to a meaningful location. The trip is absolutely grueling but the view is spectacular, one few men have ever seen.

In response to the Ilmor X3 project-

The X3 project has been of great interest to us, the entire Ilmor team should be congratulated on their success to date.  I was first made aware of the project last December (05) when one of our engineers from Cosworth told me about a project his mate was working on at Ilmor.  At that time Ilmor had already been working on their bike for some time, while I had just presented our new Z-line 4 engine design to our engineers and we were just starting the design of the new 07 990 prototype, we knew then our bike would be at least 6 months behind the Ilmor bike.  One of the many great advantages Ilmore has over MotoCzysz is that Ilmor already had an existing engineering firm and decades of experience designing and building engines. 18 months ago MotoCzysz had 3 employees and was based in my carriage house at home. We eagerly await additional development news on the project and will be rooting for them next year.  Actually, what I would really like to do is take the X3 for a ride!

  MC

If you have questions, send them to us at faq@motoczysz.com.

36 Responses to “Michael Czysz Responds To Some FAQ’s”

  1. JScott says:

    Sounds like things are proceeding well. Looking forward to 08!

  2. Matt Hubbell says:

    A true adventure is intoxicating no matter the destination. The C1 is going to kick ass anyplace it can be seen. Howeverthe C1 would be seen by more intoxicated adventurers in WSB. hahaha – Also with the Speedchannel and internet, I think the numbers of fans are much higher than the number of tickets sold at anyone race.

  3. Ben Fox says:

    I have to disagree about something here. Please don’t take this the wrong way, I love your bike, I love your plans, and I truly wish I could be apart of them.

    You said that WSB would be a better venue for sponsors? well isn’t that contradictory to what you are trying to do? I mean the ultimate goal is to sell an american bike to americans right? If your future is going to be determined by sponsors solely then I think you heading in the wrong direction. Isn’t your whole mantra about doing it your way, outside the norm?

    Why do you want to market an american machine to europe.

    You need to go AMA racing first!….Motorcyclist here in the U.S. will watch every AMA event on T.V. and attend the ones that are closest to their homes.

    I don’t know of any motorcyclist here that knows more about WSB racing than they do AMA.

    I think the Fogarty Petronas team needs to be studied a little bit by Motoczysz before they jump into the ring with Ducati and Suzuki. Kawi and Honda are coming on stronger as well.

    The Petronas teams had some pretty deep pockets for backing and that bike as beautiful as it was never evolved to anything in my opinion. Please don’t follow the same path as them.

    In the AMA you would be the buzz of the nation. The great american hope, racing on red white and blue soil.

    Good Luck, I will be cheering for you regardless.

  4. Isaac Chavira says:

    Every time I see that machine I drool. I am in agreeance witha WSB race team. I would like to see it compete against the GSX-R’s and the CBR’s. I cannot wait until the bike is up for production. I will surely spend the money for it even if it is in Ducati and MV Agusta price territory. I would like to see the bike offered for “Privateer” race teams as well. At least then if somone wanted they could go AMA or Formula X.

  5. Michael Payne says:

    Glad to hear there are some solid plans for racing in a couple of years. It had gone quiet for a while. I say go with what is going to work best. If a debut in WSB means Motoczysz has an American future further down the track then it is still heading towards the goal of and American Superbike. It is also great to hear that MotoGP is still a technical possibility in 800cc guise.

    Maybe a twin counter rotating cranks 250GP along the frame with all the other Motoczysz goodies included. Could show case the technology in gp at a slightly lower and cheaper level? just a side idea:) and 250′s are just about my favourite class…:)

    Anymore news on the ‘supersport’ size machine/engine?

  6. Chris Cosentino says:

    How do you plan to satisfy the homogolation requirements for either WSB or AMA in 2008?

  7. angrybob says:

    Great news fellas. Its fun for me to watch the development process from the outside.

    AMA vs. WSBK? Let’s not kid ourselves, you have to go with the best overall package. If that takes you to WSBK, so be it. If that keep you here, great too. I personally think that the AMA is a sinking ship with poor management. There aren’t really any new faces, therefore its the same guys…different day (note: I was glad to see Mladin NOT win for once). How many blunders can one series take in a year?

    Given the choice, with a competitive total package (men, machine, and money), I would like to see WSBK. The big names are there and its the best of the best when it comes to bike we can buy. That said, if you still need to work out issues, AMA may be a better series to refine the men and machinery.

    Regardless, there are a helluva lot of us pulling for you.

  8. W.Cislowski says:

    I find your design idea’s a real breath of fresh air in the world of bike design, But i find it interesting you still constrain yourself to traditional valve train, When there is at least 1 other alternative out there that (I know of) would absoulutely turn engine performance in a new direction without the limitations of the current valvetrain configuration.

    The next 12 months should be real interesting to watch I dearly hope you reach all of your goal’s for the future and can’t wait to see it racing.

  9. Todd d McLaughlin says:

    I would think being a new team & needing to get a new team bike + rider to speed. I would pick the place that would give you the most for the money. Where the rules will help you, & not get in your way. Foggie showed a big pile of cash can go away in a hurry & still have nothing to show for it. Other thing sponcers will want is for the bike to get a lot of attation. Once the NEW factor is lost, your going to need to be there in the top 10 bikes or be forgot. So where do you think you can get the bike noticed the most, get to speed the fastest, & keep your raceing bugit in check. Moto GP is a grand, but companys
    like Aprilia & Blata had to give it up, KTM could not even keep KR in motors, & even Ducati has had to take brakes in there gp raceing to keep the funds flowing. AMA vs WSB, I would see what the rules had to offer, & then look to what one is seen more in the US.
    I did not miss a GP last year, I saw some AMA, but I skiped on WSB couse it was a one team show most all year. Think of all the noise Buell made last year for Daytona……this is what sponcers want is press. Hope I help. Good luck I will be watching.

  10. Marc Gray says:

    One word… MotoGP! (or acronym for you detail orientated)

    And If I am not wrong, the original goal was to make an “American Contender”… A team of the best America has to offer, performing in the best class the world has to offer. In the world of canned bikes, such as WSB and AMA, the C1 would be wasted.

    With China reviving Benelli to make a MotoGP bid, Aprilia rumored to reenter, and Ilmor … The path is clear.

    And with the addition of a new USA Venue, Indianapolis, there will be no world stage larger than the GP. The charisma of this class is unique. These guys are “Rock Stars”… The fan and media buzz will build quickly… Faith… US is tiring of NASCAR… and no other venue has the spirit of the MotoGP…

    Drive on, if pneumatics are the key… I think the R&D would be realized in the events that will unfold following the inevitable wins the team will achieve. Keep the dream alive.

    A True Fan!

  11. Robert ReFalo says:

    It does not matter which series you choose to race in,
    as there will be critics for every decision made.

    Decide which criteria are the most important for your situation,
    and chose the series that will best help you reach your goals.

    I’m more interested in the production versions of your bike, as there are
    far too many good ideas in there for this machine to be strictly a race bike.
    I want one. No, i want two.

  12. Ben Cain says:

    Ilmor’s 2007 GP budget is $26M. Ducati appears to spend millions per year on GP R&D alone (of course, your colleague Mr Cioni would know for sure), and that budget is probably small when compared to those of Honda and Yamaha. That being the case, it’s hard to think that $500k in potential NRE charges killed the 800. One might be tempted to wonder if that weren’t just a convenient excuse to get out of a MotoGP program that was in trouble for other reasons.

    Yours was shaping up to be a Davey and Goliath story anyway, but had you found a way to meet the 800cc challenge, I can’t help but think that MotoCzysz would have been an instant legend. However, potential legendary status probably isn’t the kind of return your investors are looking for.

    Blue sky engineering like yours seems more at home in MotoGP – here’s hoping we see you there very soon. All the best to you, no matter what happens.

  13. Joe Ruck says:

    With so many motorcyclists in the world and so many American motorcyclists wanting an American Super Bike, it is most important to realize the only way for Motoczysz C1 to gain identity is to reach the show room.

    After reading articles in magazines and reviewing everything the C1 is a winner, but all of this is pointless unless the bike is sitting next to the big four and Ducati, reasonably priced.

    The bike will find its way to the track and it will be raced, it might be 2 or 3 generations of C1′s before you have the capital to do Moto Gp. The brand will be established and hopefully will spawn off different models.

    Motorcyzsz has real innovation, fresh design, and a winner’s philosophy. Do not wait until these attributes become past due. Too many good designs have never reached the customer.

  14. Joshua Cornett says:

    I havent made the time to go to the AMA race for two years now. I Love to watch the races here at home. I watch some of the WSB races and most of the MotoGP’s. However I would love to see that bike going around our tracks. I know several friends and myself would be attending the track any and all days that you are there. All I can say is the bike needs to be on the track in order for it to get the attention to sell them. I know when you do start selling one let me know because I want to ride the bike that is built in America without compromising the performance my Ducati gives me. Also I am sure it is much cheaper to drive around our country then all over Europe. If you guys ever need anything in the NC area let me know.

  15. djam says:

    AMA vs. WSB! I think if you’re looking for exposure and a more competitive grid WSB is the way to go. Do not underestimate the amount of US fans that rather turn to WSB then AMA. I, being one of them! Your assertions about the AMA are unfortunately all to true and I don’t see it getting any better. I say leave it up to the privateers in AMA and give them some support in the way of technical advice since they will be walking that very lonely road. At least they could provide some exposure to the American market. If the bike is as good as your test riders say it is then the privateer may be competitive once again.

  16. Everett says:

    I am perplexed that Czysz even thinks his bike will be eligible for superbike racing, either AMA or WSBK. The minimum production run for 2007 was 150 bikes, and for 2008 and 2009 the number has gone up to 1000 bikes to be eligible. Simply put, its a bike without a series. The only hope in heck the guy has is to approach AMA and wave the flag and get an exception, as they have done in the past with Harley Davidson.

  17. Arthur A Haglund says:

    I wish you all the best, and I am a bit disappointed in the lack of any real magazine (American, especially) coverage.
    I have designed and continue to define a different internal combustion engine with patentable block, spark, valve, crank, connecting rod and other designs. I have never had the financial advantage that you have had to get a project off the ground. I have also checked into two wheel drive and two wheel steering.
    I was sad to see James Parker give you what was essentially a “thumbs-down” on your design. I am convinced that mahy of your ideas are absolute winners!
    I look forward to your success in the marketplace, no matter what the racing scene holds. I do feel that the big hitters will have you legislated out of any series that you may, eventually, win. This has been the history of racing. those who are powerful, and have their corporate pride at stake, have always outlawed the truely innovative and special. (just check for turbine cars at Indy, or the variable groud effect wing of the Chapperal, or the vacuum car)

  18. chris montgomery says:

    i wish you succes, the bike looks greatand sounds amaizing.

    I have to say that you Americans have to realise that you are not the best at everything, this bike has to go for moto GP or you will prove nothing. I hope it works, i really do but you have a huge task ahead of you. After all the USA has never made a race bike that works.

  19. hip says:

    hi, I’ve just seen on the discovery chanel the build of the bike. It sounds great and might have some potential. But.. Don’t consider the Japanese and Italian bikes easy to challenge. In 2007at last Honda/Yahama struggled against Ducati. I believe because Ducati had/has lot of experience in SB. The C1 has no experience/development at all.
    We’re now in 2008 and hope to see this new bike on the track. All the luck

  20. Rafal says:

    Discovery docmovie was fascinating. Now I’m gonna follow your achievments. Good luck.

  21. Janice says:

    I agree with Rafal, I am also a big fan now.

  22. William Hollingsworth says:

    So am I

  23. J says:

    MC – looking forward to more updates. I have the discovery show recorded, but I’d like to catch updated vid. feeds. 100k is a bit out of my range, so I hope costs come down to the Duc levels in the future. Regardless, best of luck getting passed the bumps. Perhaps you can setup a “donations” thing online where we can send a few bucks to help out.

  24. Jason Sibray says:

    Well quite frankly the American public isn’t really into anything not NASCAR. It is a shame to since many drivers in that sport got a start in something other than stock car. They should support the hands that feed. Look at the World of Outlaws. Can anyone tell me where the final round is held or where is the indoor venue? Not likely but you can tell me that Jeff Gordon was a World of Outlaw champ. What is AMA’s feeder program? Americans don’t seem to like a race where you can’t take a nap and not miss something. Also, who can beat Suzuki these days? Bill Gates could fund a team and maybe win but that isn’t because of ingenuity. Plain dollar bills wins the cups in AMA. WSBK now has multiple winners and winning chassis thru out the seasons. Why not start there? You have great competition, a larger audience (which in trickle down terms means the US of A will get the ticket soon), and the announcers are far more entertaining to listen too. Crikey. Why worry where something gets it’s start if it succeeds and finds it way into a bigger audience (us Americans). Don’t be offended when you see a Motoczsyz bike on the podium for WSBK. That just means the C1 Mayflower has set sail and will spread like smallpox in American racing.

  25. Michael J Dale(Waterford City, Southern Ireland) says:

    Dear Michael, I stayed up till 2am, transfixed by your dream & success, I am in total awe of your committment, and wish you every possible success in your venture, Iv’e been watching bike and car racing (at the trackside) since1954, and still follow it to-date,
    All my best wishes

    Michael J dale

  26. ian morley says:

    Dear michael your ideas for a shake up of motorcycle design are a breath of fresh air and long over due . I wish you the very best of luck and hope you succeed in the very near future ‘ and cannot wait until you bring your radical engineering design to england to compete at donnigton park . Moto gp or wsb it will be a winner for sure .

  27. TJ DeOliveira says:

    Hey, Michael,
    Just watched this docfilm on Discovery and for a big part of it I thought I’d tuned on SciFi! Simply amazing how you guys made that crazy bike come true. Shame about that (damn suspicious) 800cc rule, but I bet you’ll show them your design is a winner.
    I just hope big industry doesn’t turn the C1 into a modern Tucker….

    Regards from Brazil

    TJ

  28. Eric Stark says:

    Michael,

    I watched the doc about your bike on Discovery. I think you and your team are doing some amazing things with the C1. There’s some really cool technology(esp. that engine!) in that bike that I think the motorcycling world needs to see. There’s too much repetition and redundancy out there. Cheers for taking the initiative and shaking things up! Best of luck.

    From Ca. USA,

    Eric

  29. Ted says:

    I seen the C1 bike several times. Your story is fascinating – your amazing marketing program is equally so. Frankly, I think you might be a better self promoter than a bike builder. Your ability to keep your collective dream (also the pipe dream of many in the motorcycle community) alive is your best asset. I can imagine the selling of your novel solutions and patents will save your dream.

    Custom bike builders are a curious folks.Your company cash burn rate on this must be enormous. Those who are good at self promotion are better survivors. I expect to be reading more about you when you finally help a struggling (in this economy) MC company inject modern design into tired tried concepts – which will give you finally the entry into the world you seek. Your company cash burn rate on this must be enormous for this project – I hope you make it.

    Ted
    Alameda, CA

  30. Great article as always, thanks for posting such helpful stuff on a regular basis.

  31. Nice. You have a couple of good points The problem with the law system is that it sometimes doesn’t work effectively. It is a failed system and needs to be revised.

  32. phillip mccammon says:

    you are a Renascence man . I wish you the every best . It is so tough today to try to create a new way of thinking about things. I understand that folks have dogged your IDEA. I am so happy you kept on living your dream.remember Its 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration. Go get them ,Be a tiger. Oh yea , when will the be open to the public for sale? I want one, Thank you Phillip Mccammon ,Austin TX

  33. Dan says:

    After watching the documentary at least 3 times, it is easy to hope for the greatest success to you and the team. The mechanical innovation, as well as the artistry involved in the carbon fiber molds are nothing short of amazing. Where do you stand now in terms of being any closer to realizing your dream and how can the public (fans,I’m sure) stay current with news of your progress. Do you have your own website? Thanks and continued good luck

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